segunda-feira, junho 06, 2011

What if there is no God?

SonjaBoris, look at this leaf. Isn't it perfect?
SonjaAnd this one? Look.
SonjaOh, yeah. I definitely think that this is the best of all possible worlds.
Boris- It's certainly the most expensive.
Sonja- Isn't nature incredible?
Boris To me, nature is... I dunno, spiders and bugs and, big fish eating little fish. And plants eating plants and animals eating... It's like an enormous restaurant.
SonjaYes, but if God created it, it has to be beautiful, even if His plan's not apparent to us at the moment.
BorisSonja, what if there is no God?
SonjaBoris Dimitrovitch, are you joking?
Boris What if we're just a bunch of absurd people who are running around  with no rhyme or reason?
SonjaBut if there is no God, then life has no meaning. Why go on living? Why not just commit suicide?
Boris Well, let's not get hysterical.I could be wrong. I'd hate to blow my brains out, then see they found something.
Sonja Boris. Let me show you how absurd your position is. Let's say there is no God, and each man  is free to do exactly as he chooses. What prevents you from murdering somebody?
Boris - Murder's immoral.
Sonja- Immorality is subjective.
Boris Yes, but subjectivity is objective.
Sonja Not in a rational scheme of perception. Perception is irrational.It implies imminence.But judgment of any system of phenomena exists in any rational, metaphysical or epistemological contradiction to an abstracted empirical concept such as being, or to be, or to occur in the thing itself, or of the thing itself.
BorisYeah, I've said that many times.
SonjaBoris, we must believe in God.
Boris If I could just see a miracle, just one miracle. If I could see a burning bush, or the seas part, or... Or my Uncle Sasha pick up a check.

SonjaWe should go back downstairs. By now the last golden streaks of the sunset are vanishing behind the western hills. Soon the dark blanket of night shall settle over us all.

Não percebo porque a vida sem Deus, não vale a pena. É verdade que implicaria não haver um "greater meaning or purpose in life"  mas isso consequentemente faz a vida valer menos a pena?
Diria que o objectivo passaria a ser também ele subjectivo, pessoal e sem bases comuns... mas mesmo assim...

Mas verdade seja dita gostei mesmo deste vídeo, da argumentação de cada lado. A questão dos valores terem que ter uma base, dado que cada opinião e visão é subjectiva, lembrou-me também que existe uma verdade absoluta, mas que nunca a podemos obter como somos limitados na nossa percepção..

É engraçado pensar que o ocidente baseia a maioria dos valores no judaismo-cristianismo.. é ele que  é a base comum, ironicamente, mesmo para aqueles que não acreditam...